Hicks is a lousy ref - one of those not up to SL standard IMO. Having said that, none of your fans have blamed the ref for the loss so it's interesting that Sandercock pretty much said he was the difference.

Maybe we should petition the RFL and get the matches reduced down to 60 minutes; that's all Sandercock must be training them to play for.

Agree with the players to come back hopefully improving things,but if there is a mass clearout again then we are back to square one and when we get ten games into next season we will be in the same position making the same excuses that there were too many changes.Coach should have been recruited when it was announced Morgan was leaving so that he could do the recruitment of players himself.Who are the 8 players rumoured to be leaving?

I've stated that the commentary team seemed baffled by his decisions on our other forum. Hard to comment when your not at the game but it seems to be an excuse that's overly used by Sandy.

Hmmm

Tbf, I think a lot of people underestimate facilities, relative to performance. Doing well is itself a relative concept, of course.



We can't worry about Hull especially... but, Pearson is in his honeymoon period and after their last board they're inclined to think the best. And tbf, signing Gareth Ellis is a massive coup. But, with the odd exception, and understandably, they're not focussing on the more equivocal signals and there is some (probably/hopefully

) unrealistic extrapolation going on. They seem to be a good deal better than us right now, mind you, credit where it is due.



But that is them. We've had our board a while now, so maybe take them for granted. I don't you can accuse them of not putting cash in the vicinity of their cakeholes though. Last week, on here and t'other forum, it was all about getting players signed up on long deals, now there'll be demands for replacements. Natural enough, but strategy can't be changed week by week.

At least you've saved a few quid

Would never have a go at our board,but if we are honest we have been going backwards now since we finished 4th,instead of kicking on like huddersfield who are consistently in the top 6 we are struggling to make the playoffs.How we change this i dont know but ask yourself this if you are Scott Taylor,Josh Hodgson,etc would you want to sign long term contracts when we dont seem to be improving.

The season we finished 4th I feel we over achieved massively. This season so far we've only played 1/3rd of the season. Massive room for improvement but the season is far from over. Keep the faith.

That my friend is known as variation and is the reason why it is simply wrong to think that because we finished 4th one year we can "kick on" and results like that should be an expectation.

Hope i am wrong but i just dont see our coach been able to turn it around even if we have a fully fit squad,think hiring an inexperienced coach is biting us in the backside.Blaming referees every week doesn't cut it for me,you have to look at yourself,dont give the ref a chance to affect you by taking care of the oppisition yourself.

Dont expect us to win the league,but if we are spending near the cap would think we should not be struggling to make the playoffs,would have took Brian Noble in a heartbeat at least we would be better organised instead of gambling on a coach who was coaching junors until 2 or 3 years ago.

His attacking structures without Green and Galea is awesome and we have no trouble scoring points. We have to remember Sandercock has only brought in three players. The rest of the team he inherited from the Morgan era. Have faith we've had a massive clear out a new coach with new structures and only 9 games into the season with a silly run of injuries..



Rally round and keep the faith.

Davy (sp?) can pay fees for players, which is a big help. Add to that a batch youngsters developing well and the appointment of Brown and it's been a good few years for them.



Hudgell said something along the lines of our having waited to long to bring in a new coach, but that is with hindsight. Morgan's record was impeccable, but we did plateau under him at the . Is that blameworthy, when you can't [ibuy[/i players and you don't have players have an academy like Saints'?



There's a balance to be struck and if you're not one of the richest clubs the margin for error is narrow.



We are at a crossroads, and it'll be interesting to see how this phase develops.



One thing I like about CS, is that he comes across as quite precise. Given time, I hope he can get us playing smarter. Even then, without more money, from benefactors or on the gate (an upward spiral future is possible too!), you have to be realistic.

So who do we think is leaving after the season then,any names on who is coming in besides paes brother if true?

S'all about opinions of course, but I think that is harsh. I think we peaked that year, but over 27 rounds it was a fair reflection of where we stood at the time. That it wasn't sustained doesn't mean it was a fluke, IMO.

Also meant to say i also think CS talks a lot of sense but we are a 1/3rd of the way through the season and defensively we get no better,scoring points no problem but would have thought when you have injuries the one thing you can get right is your defence,hope i'm proved wrong but we will be lucky to make the playoffs this year.

Think we'll easily make the playoffs. Still 2/3rd of the season remain. A massive influx of players like those below means it's going to take time. The signs are encouraging.



David Hodgson (Huddersfield)

Graham Horne (Huddersfield)

Ryan O'Hara (Crusaders)

Lincoln Withers (Crusaders)

George Griffin (Queanbeyan Kangaroos)

Mickey Paea (Canterbury Bulldogs)

Keal Carlile (Huddersfield)

Constantine Mika (Newcastle)

Shannon McDonnell (Newcastle)

Who are the players rumoured to leaving/coming in for 2013 then?

After readin that I'm not sure whether Sandy should take the flack here. Well worded and gracious at the end.

Wigan, Saints, Wire, Leeds are the current big 4. Catalans are strong and both Hull and Hudds have been willing to pay fees for players. That leaves only 1 spot free in the 8. I'd like to think we'd lead the hunt for it, but it isn't a gimme.



I agree that Sandercock needs to lay off the refs - they're plop but it'll even up over time (excepting maybe against the top teams). But his inexperience doesn't worry me overly, other assistants have come from the NRL and done well. He's had a bumpy time of it, but it's early days.

No idea but I'll have a guess.



1) Ben Galea (retiring)

2) Jake Webster (Return to Aus)

3) Jason Netherton

4) Sam Latus

5) Scott Wheeldon

6) Scott Murrell

7) Joel Clinton (Return to Aus)



Liam Watts

TBF i think hudds only paid a big fee for danny brough.The likes of brown,robinson,mason went to them when they were out of contract at other clubs,they do seem to be able to attract other clubs best juniors to join them,so it doesnt take a fortune to improve just some better talent spotting/scouting.

I wouldn't be too downbeat about tonight's result in a sense. You played very well in patches and scored some good tries. The only point I'd make is that you're too reliant on Mika. The big guy was taking it up twice every set pretty much and by the end of the game he was totally cooked.

What are you quoting there? Because that's not what he said on blunderside.