The only way for the council to come out of this with any credibility is to do what MC suggested and finance the community stadium like Leeds CC are doing with headingley lending the money but getting it back with interest. Everyone's a winner and saves it from going to court.



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Be nice if he would add....."Walker has no mandate or authority whatsoever, his involvement has been a disaster, the council will refuse to involve him and will only deal with the legitimate trust"...or words to that effect.

Is this Box just playing his usual game of politics and trying to appear to be the good guy, or has he finally grown a pair ???

I know which one I think it is !!

In the highly unlikely event that it is the latter, then Mackie should be made to stump up the 6 million that I believe he offered to contribute earlier this year, otherwise he will not be granted planning permission to build anything else at Newmarket or anywhere else within the district.

Just another delaying tactic, once again actions speak louder than words councillor Box !!!

Just another delaying tactic, once again actions speak louder than words councillor Box !!!

Peter Box says heads of terms not fit for purpose, and beleives developer has no intention of building the stadium. Developer to be asked to leave the process in order to find a new developer!



Statement later

Is this a fact?

Its what he has just said

Whilst he is at it he can tell Walker and his fake trust to do one as well

Mackie would be an idiot to agree to walk away from all that land over the sake of £6-8 million. Let's hope he takes this threat seriously and agrees to something with some substance.

Unfortunately I suspect Box will say they cannot find a new developer or alternatively finding one and them being in a position to deliver a stadium will be too late for our needs

Like i said...just watch box give his statement....so yes

Just a load of bull and hot air unless its backed up with firm actions that will deviver a stadium in time.



I wont hold by breath but I live in hope.

Sir Rodney's claim to get a stadium built for 2019 is made to look absolutely ridiculous when even if Yorkcourt did intend to build a stadium they wouldn't have done it until and unspecified number of houses are built for which no planning permission is applied for. The Box statement makes him look even worse when even Box is saying the HOT is rubbish. . Sir Rodders needs to get his pipe and slippers and his trust and slink off in to the sunset.

He wont.



How is Box going to find a new developer when Yorkcourt own the land or have options on land at Newmarket unless he has another site in mind. Maybe he has listened to a suggestion from the Trust but doubt it.

How can he get a new developer to build a stadium on another developers land ?

Mackie is taking the now. First it's 'let me build some warehouses on this land then i'll build you a stadium'. Now it's 'I've got my warehouses, I want to build some houses now...then you might get your stadium'. Absolute joker.



Won't be any land left to build a stadium on once we meet this elusive 'trigger point'.

So what can the council actually do now to try and force the developers hand? Nothing?

Yep thats about the some total of it. Unless Yorkcourt can be proved to have broken the law, and technically they probably haven't despite being morally destitute, then there is not much the council can do. Mackie won't give up the land, it's to valuable and is likely to be mortgaged up to the hilt. And as for turning down planning permissions they can't do that without viable reasons otherwise they will end up in court. The original PP is still in effect so whether Newcold is included or not they have square metres to play with and have cart blanch to sit on the land as long as they like. The permission has no time constraints whatsoever so they will play the long game.



Box coming out and slamming Yorkcourt is good in one respect but ultimately he knows it can't and win't make a blind bit of difference. They can be threats and injunctions both ways but all this does is chew up time, the one thing we don't have. Sadly i see no possible positive outcome in this at all.

They could try and use a CPO and then sell it to another developer, but that would take years and they might lose in court as Manchester Council found out a couple of years ago (after ringing up over £1m in legal fees)



I am interested in why only a couple of days ago Box was talking about a positive announcement. It seems that by the Trust releasing the proposed HoT for the public to see, forced Box into a corner and admitting it was a not for for purpose otherwise he would have carried on talking things up shielded by the secrecy that has been in place for the last 7 years.

Sandal please explain how do Yorkcourt own that land,Have they bought it off the council and then rented it to Newcold to build that large Coldstore thus they're already making money out of Newcold,



Plus I think it was Vasty you mention it a while ago about the council putting the money up front for the Proper Trust to build a new Stadium at a bit at a time and pay them back over the years at a fixed rate.

And if we could get something out of Yorkcourt be it my threatening legal action against them would that help, Also have the Community Trust got a trust account for anybody to Donate into.





Up The Trin

One thing Box can do is to tell Walker to shove it, It may not get us a stadium but we have a far better chance of getting one if his greedy snout is out of the way for good!!!!



The guy has no mandate and no authority, Box is quite entitled to refuse to have him involved.

This

These people eventually trip themselves up.

The Newmarket site was the former Newmarket Silkstone Colliery which was leased to British Coal but the owners who I believe was Oulton Estates. Yorkcourt bought the site from Oulton Estates. The Stadium land is owned by the local farmer and Yorkcourt have an option to purchase it. The Newcold site was sold by Yorkcourt to Newcold.



We will if we have to go legal be seeking donations through a crowd funding web site so people can donate online but I'm sure we will at the appropriate time take donations direct into the Trusts account.