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| Quote BarnsleyTrinity="BarnsleyTrinity"I've been waiting for this subject to come up as a Barnsley lad born and bred and a Barnsley FC fan .
The time to put some work in to attracting new fans from over here is right now , probably as greater time than there's ever been .
Barnsley FC are losing fans by the hundreds , the club is in serious managed decline and the apathy surrounding the club is significant .
There's a huge opportunity to tap in to this apathy and direct it towards Trinity with a decent marketing strategy , I don't actually have any concerns about Barnsley losing fans to Trinity , firstly the two sports aren't competitors as such given RL is primarily a summer sport and my opinion Barnsley deserve to lose fans given the way the club is run and the overall match day experience and the state of the stadium .
If you were to talk to Matt Ellis he'd probably tell you the same .
Darton , Kexborough , Staincross , Mapplewell , Royston , Athersley are less than half an hour from Belle Vue , I live in Staincross and it takes less than 15 minutes to get to Belle Vue .
You get people coming through those turnstiles , decent match day experience with food and drink , a nice warm evening and a cracking Super League game and I'll guarantee you'll get many returning .
Many Barnsley fans are crying out for something else to do such is the apathy and I think it's not just BFC but the way football has now gone .
I've followed the club all over the country and fallen out with it big time and there are hundreds like me .
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I agree with you entirely BT. I held a Barndsley FC season ticket for the last 22 years as well as a Trinity ticket, but packed in for several reasons thus: a} New team and new manager every season. You just get to know the players when it's "all change" once again, b) Too many Tuesday evening games in freezing wet weather,c) That long hike from the East Stand up Belgrave Avenue that nearly did me in on many occasions, d) A 15 minute car journey extended to a 70 minute journey when I started parking at the ground, owing to traffic congestion.
I've always thought that there was a large number of potential new Trinity fans in the Barnsley area. Not long ago there seemed to be a growing amateur RL scene in t'Tarn. We Played both Sheffield and St Helens at Oakwell in the not too distant past.
Matt, himself a Staincross lad, would seem the ideal ambassador to attract the fans across to Belle Vue | | |
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seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!)
450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!!
In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile.
People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.
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seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!)
450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!!
In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile.
People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.
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| Quote Spookisback="Spookisback"seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!)
450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!!
In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile.
People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.'"
I honestly just wish that we could shut these moaners up. All the energy fighting and whinging against a new system and none invested in helping along its development and success.
It’s early days of a 10/11 year plan. There have been strides forward across the game. Honestly they should stop giving these people lip service and have proper reviews based on results year on year. | | |
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| Quote Spookisback="Spookisback"seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!)
450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!!
In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile.
People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.'"
Completely agree, there is no long term strategic thinking at all. It's not delivered a £40m per year contract in year two so it's a failure, let's go back to what we've done for the past 30 years which has got the sport into the state it is.
IMG are raising standards and pushing RL into the 21st century sporting psyche. The only way we get an improved tv deal is if we get a bidding process for the rights. We get more eyes on the sport other broadcastes will look at the game. | | |
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Agree with all the above. Stick with it. It's a long term plan.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"Completely agree, there is no long term strategic thinking at all. It's not delivered a £40m per year contract in year two so it's a failure, let's go back to what we've done for the past 30 years which has got the sport into the state it is.
IMG are raising standards and pushing RL into the 21st century sporting psyche. The only way we get an improved tv deal is if we get a bidding process for the rights. We get more eyes on the sport other broadcastes will look at the game.'"
Short sighted stupidity is what it is.
It’s quite simple. The IMG criteria is there to monitor and record things such as growth in actual numbers for engagement, infrastructure and strengthening on and off the pitch.
When a business is at the next table to negotiate, the RFL will be in a much stronger position as there will be data and analysis available on the sport, right down to club level. This can be used as leverage and to justify investment in the sport.
Increase in engagement, attendances, interactions for individual clubs will be rising. New screens, LEDs and increase sponsorship and businesses interested. All this increases the bargaining power for better investment BUT it will be gradual and take time.
I can imagine the RFL went to the table with very little data and not ur themselves in a corner. Well, next time at the table they should have much more data and I would hope that it’s used to full effect.
If these media outlets and people were to invest in positive articles to drive the growth it would help get there faster. But no, better to be combative and a stick in the mud. So short sighted it’s laughable. | | | |
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