Don't have to be tearing tree's up on the park to pass your knowledge on, the three most succesful coaches in the clubs history didn't, but poor old Danny does not fit in does he, take away injuries he's been judged over this season as an interchange hooker, where as Burrows who been gash up to now is judged over his career???

I've told you before. You can not post things like that around here.



That is talking sense. Just not acceptable, where certain posters around here are concerned.

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooossshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



What about the kid you're supposedly teaching being 70 miles away and nowhere near Leeds training?













Same question to you.

Don't really think they go stand in a corner of Kirstall and have a 1 to 1 every day. If I were a young hooker though i'd like to learn off Buderus, the talents got to be there to be nurtured though, so when Mcshane does not make it I fully expect Buderus to take the blame.

how old is he out of curiosity?

You'd have to be pretty naive to think that McShane hasn't learnt from Buderus. That wasn't the reason Leeds signed him, but it was a handy little aside that during McShane's development he'd be working alongside one of the best hookers of modern times. Buderus himself has been quoted as saying he's enjoying passing on hints to McShane during his time at Leeds. I'm pretty sure he's not holding his hand and tying his shoelaces during every training session though

Lets be honest too, at FC with Berro injured for 8 weeks i'm pretty sure McShane and Danny Houghton will both receive more 121 tuition from Berro to keep him busy. Will be a great opportunity for McShane to learn from Berro like he has Buderus. Not a bad couple of hooking role models.

There's probably only Tiger Woods who's had a one to one with two better hookers.

But why is Mcshane beingshipped out to Hull rather than learning from the master?

The under 20s comp is pretty low skill. He's going to pick far far more up playing SL. No matter how much tuition someone gets in training its never the same as putting it into practise on the pitch at a higher standard.

So why did Leeds bring Buderus over then?

Same reason that FC brough Berro over. They are both world class international hookers and neither team have seen the best of them on the pitch.

Like I said if i wanted to learn hooking its off buderus,

Half back: Johns

Centre: Maninga

Loose forward: Wayne Pearce

Argumentitive Tw*t: i'd come to you.

So telephone communication doesn't exist between Leeds and Hull?



McShane plays Buderus watches and then they talk over the phone about the game?

But I've frequently been told that while budersu sint eprfroming that well on thep itch at leasy he's passing his knowledge onto the young hookers. That's part of why he was brought over apparently.



Why then has the lad hes supposedly been tutoring possibly being shipped out to Hull on loan?

to see what he's learnt? amongst the big boys rather than the 20's

So he can try out the theory in a practical environment - isn't that the purpose of education - preparing students for the rigors of the real world?

So, good old Hull will reap the benefit of our expensive, on quota, assistant coach/mediocre player? Whilst the pupil receiving sooooo much benefit from this teachings" can't apply them practically in the Leeds first team because this great teacher is occupying his spot and playing, frankly, rather ordinary stuff.



Learn by doing. If Buderus wasn't here McShane could play, we would have a quota spot for another position with greater need and we'd probably save a few bob.



If we're so desperate for this alleged coaching that Buderus brings and that he will bring by phone from Hull (PMSL) then have a video of Buderus from the NRL sent each week and get them to have a conversation on skype.

Buderus different class again today.

He needs to carry on doing that for the rest of the year.

He was very good mate but a team effort led by the outstanding Burrow!