Rangi Chase

Oh for god sake this is getting stupid now www.englandrl.co.uk/article.php?id=23686

Oh for god sake this is getting stupid now www.englandrl.co.uk/article.php?id=23686

For me it's just a joke now. I know other sports do this but for me it doesn't make it right. I would prefer to see a team of actual englishmen in my national team.



Good to see that we are really encouraging the youth development in our own game, by not rewarding ENGLISH players with a spot

Joke. I'd rather England lose every match in the 4 Nations than win the competition with a bunch of plastic Englishmen in the side.

As has been said and as I have said to many on Twitter, i'd sooner see a cr4p england team but with UK born players than this. It just smacks of desperation.



Also what kind of signal does it send out to the youngsters? They'll start jumping ship to raa raa next

McBanana needs to give his head a shake

He went after Cherry-Evans of Manly too!

I don't know what to make of the news. Its exact same as when Maurie Fa'asa'vulu played for us. Only this time he joins along with two others.

So could have been Cherry Evans and Chase at 6 and 7

Yep, Good Home Grown Talent

This is interesting considering Super League's best 2 teams don't have an overseas half-back between them



McGuire, Burrow, Sinfield, Gaskell, Lomax, Pryce



None of whom are good enough for McNamarama apparently

Not this again. We've beaten Warrington away. That's it. I'm REALLY chuffed and proud. We played amazingly well. Great stuff. But WE'VE ONLY BEATEN WARRINGTON AWAY.



We are NOT one of the 2 best teams in Super League. Not at the moment anyway. Let's have a bit of humility eh?! We're good at the play off system. We're a good team. But we need to be gracious in victory and that Warrington team is clearly a class act.



Although I agree with your post in principle. I think there's a 6 or two better than Chase in that list. But I just don't like this "best 2 teams" lark. It's embarrassing.

He'll put Sinfield at Hooker (for some reason) and I reckon only Lomax will feature now Chase has been called up.



I think he is making a mockery of the British Game the stupid Flat Top Frankenstein looking MoFo.

I am plenty gracious, don't you worry about that. My post was extremely tongue in cheek.



Warrington are truly a class team, unfortunately their stand-off has chosen to abandon hope of playing for his home country and choose one of our rivals instead. Same as Rangi has done

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..........Chase isn't on form. Shouldn't be picked on retrospective merits.

Regardless of who we put in we'll still fair poorly, so I would prefer given that thought, that we'd do it with homegrown players, rather than imports who do it to boost their career rather than play for any love of the country

Some real backward and insular thoughts being posted on here (shock horror).



What is an Englishman? When is Chase entitled to feel that this is "his country"?



Have you read his quotes? He doesn't return to NZ in the off season. he lives here, he works here, he has an English girlfriend and plans to stay here in the future. I know it may not fit an EDL or BNP definition but doesn't that make him English if he feels English?



The Aussies and New Zealanders have done this for many, many years with South Sea Islanders.



I see no issue other than, as Bloodbath points out, his form hasn't actually been very good the 2nd half of the season.

Has the list been edited, because there was no-one on the list I read that was close this season. Otherwise your post was eminently sensible.

How do you define the "best"?



Is it the runner that sets off at an unsustainable pace, falling behind the pack at the last hurdle or the runner who paces himself properly, ultimately winning the race?



IMO, the team who comes top of the league table is not the best unless and until they win the GF. They're the most consistent in qualification for the playoffs but the best will properly be determined Saturday night.

He's obviously only got round to considering it "his country" pretty recently:



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"This game could help me play for New Zealand. That's my goal to wear the black and white of my country.



"It's a dream of mine since I was a little kid. If I play well I might get a crack. The best player in the world Benji Marshall is in front of me (in the Kiwi picture) and that is a good reason why one day I want to play in the NRL"

So he'll be playing against the Exiles next year then ?

Mmmmm interesting..

I'm in agreement with you on this.



I think people were incredibly unfair on the team getting to the Challenge cup final, saying we had an easy run, which was bull, we played Super League teams all the way through, regardless of how they are rated.



What we have achieved in getting to the grand final from the position we were and the teams we have played is superb.



I have to be honest, and it maybe easy to say because it's already been achieved, but I will take even more satisfaction out of winning the GF this year, than what I did in 2004. Winning this year would show incredible resolve, incredible spirit, incredible togetherness, and would quite rightly be correct to claim to be the best.

Cringe.



That is a bit embarrassing. I maintain I have no issue with selecting player's like Chase in principle. However, when you read stuff like this it does make you wonder if the basis of being honoured by playing for England is really that you've been told you're not good enough for NZ.

Warrington: Myler

Leeds: McGuire, Burrow, Sinfield

Saints: Gaskell, Lomax, Pryce

Huddersfield: Brough, Brown, Robinson

Wigan: Tomkins



Five of the top english teams all have English players that can play in that position, its ridiculous. And then you have Melbourne Storm with Widdop.

I'm fully behind anyone who plays for England, if they are eligible according to the rules.



What doesn't seem right, which has been aluded to, is he stated a while back his ambition was to play for NZ.



The current 'English' stand offs must be a little peeved with this announcement, that their chances of playing have seemingly been diminished a little